More silly text/gemini spec proposals

Petite Abeille petite.abeille at gmail.com
Fri May 29 14:50:28 BST 2020


> On May 29, 2020, at 15:15, solderpunk <solderpunk at SDF.ORG> wrote:
> 
> Ugh, sorry about this email.  

No worries.

> I was irritable from a lack of good sleep
> and waking up to a whole slew of posts here about extra complications,
> just as I was starting to feel we were at last approaching a kind of
> "cross the t's and dot the lowercase j's" state where there wasn't much
> left to add.  But I have no idea what your intended tone was and it may
> well have just been tongue in cheek.

Just kicking the tires, I actually do like retro tech  ☺︎ 

No harm intended.

>  Mostly I was just annoyed at
> learning that these data:// URLs exist.  I hadn't been aware of them.
> And frankly...what the hell?  Who thought it was a good idea to turn a
> harmless way to indicate *where* some data can be found into a way to
> shoehorn in the data itself?

Larry Masinter
Internet pioneer and ACM Fellow ✌︎
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Masinter

• RFC 1737 Functional Requirements for Uniform Resource Names (K. Sollins, L. Masinter)
• RFC 1738 Uniform Resource Locators (URL) (T. Berners-Lee, L. Masinter, M. McCahill)
• RFC 1867 Form-based File Upload in HTML (E. Nebel, L. Masinter)
• RFC 2324 Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0) (L. Masinter)
• RFC 2368 The mailto URL scheme (P. Hoffman, L. Masinter, J. Zawinski)
• RFC 2388 Returning Values from Forms: multipart/form-data (L. Masinter)
• RFC 2396 Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax (T. Berners-Lee, R. Fielding, L. Masinter)
• RFC 2397 The "data" URL scheme (L. Masinter)
• RFC 2532 Extended Facsimile Using Internet Mail (L. Masinter, D. Wing)
• RFC 2534 Media Features for Display, Print, and Fax (L. Masinter, D. Wing, A. Mutz, K. Holtman)
• RFC 2542 Terminology and Goals for Internet Fax (L. Masinter)
• RFC 2616 Hypertext Transfer Protocol—HTTP/1.1 (R. Fielding, J. Gettys, J. Mogul, H. Frystyk, L. Masinter, P. Leach, T. Berners-Lee)
• RFC 2718 Guidelines for new URL Schemes (L. Masinter, H. Alvestrand, D. Zigmond, R. Petke)
• RFC 2732 Format for Literal IPv6 Addresses in URL's (R. Hinden, B. Carpenter, L. Masinter)
• RFC 2854 The 'text/html' Media Type (D. Connolly, L. Masinter)
• RFC 2938 Identifying Composite Media Features (G. Klyne, L. Masinter)
• RFC 2972 Context and Goals for Common Name Resolution (N. Popp, M. Mealling, L. Masinter, K. Sollins)
• RFC 3470 Guidelines for the Use of Extensible Markup Language (XML) within IETF Protocols (S. Hollenbeck, M. Rose, L. Masinter)
• RFC 3553 An IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol Parameters (M. Mealling, L. Masinter, T. Hardie, G. Klyne)
• RFC 3778 The application/pdf Media Type (E. Taft, J. Pravetz, S. Zilles, L. Masinter)
• RFC 3986 Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax (T. Berners-Lee, R. Fielding, L. Masinter)
• RFC 4395 Guidelines and Registration Procedures for New URI Schemes (T. Hansen, T. Hardie, L. Masinter)
• RFC 6068 The 'mailto' URI Scheme (M. Duerst, L. Masinter, J. Zawinski)
• RFC 7578 Returning Values from Forms: multipart/form-data (L. Masinter)
• RFC 7995 PDF Format for RFCs (L. Masinter)

> What are we supposed to use in a context
> where we don't want that to be a possibility?  Bah!

5.3.2 Link lines is arguably the best feature of Gemini. With TLS. Less is more, love it.

But of course, at the same time, it opens the door to creative tampering of sort.

On the other hand, the destructive creativity will be limited to the client side. 

And may never gain traction in practice. Supply & demand & all.

All in the spirit of Gemini:

Clients can present links to users in whatever fashion the client author wishes.

In term of damage control, we could perhaps arbitrary limit link lines' length to 1024 bytes, similarly to 2 Gemini requests.

This will not discourage miscreant from using, like, *two* lines for their misdeeds,  but at least the protocol itself would have made the point -loud and clear- about how it feels about it.

Either way, nothing to lose sleep over.

"Great job, team. Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails. "
-- Spottswoode, Team America: World Police, 2004


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PA






 






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