The Problems of Transclusion (was Re: More silly text/gemini spec proposals)

Sean Conner sean at conman.org
Thu Jun 11 22:55:54 BST 2020


It was thus said that the Great Petite Abeille once stated:
> 
> > On May 30, 2020, at 04:41, Sean Conner <sean at conman.org> wrote:
> > 
> >                        NO INLINING OF LINKS ALLOWED!
> 
> Meanwhile, back on the interweb:
> 
> http://subpixel.space/entries/open-transclude/

  Yes, but note that it only works within a certain context and is not a
general solution to transclusion.  Also, the transclusion is done by the
client.  A Gemini server *could* implement transclusion behind the scenes.

> Also:
> https://subpixel.space/entries/introducing-quotebacks/

  I do this now.  If you check this post of mine:

	http://boston.conman.org/2020/03/23.2

you should see a blockquote that links back to the original article.  And if
you check the source, you'll see I used the CITE attribute in the BLOCKQUOTE
tag to *also* link to the source.

  Furthermore, when I use Firefox on Linux, I can highlight the portion of a
page I want to quote, and using a special program, grab not only the HTML
from the clipboard [1] but the URL, use that to grab the page again for the
title, and automatically generate the BLOCKQUOTE for me.

  -spc (Amazing what's hidden under the hood, so to speak)

[1]	The X Windows selection mechanism is quote sophisticated and
	supports multiple MIME types (no, really!).  I have some text
	highlighted in Firefox (under Linux) right now, and I can grab
	(among other values):

		text/html			With the HTML
		UTF8_STRING			sans HTML
		text/x-moz-url			URL of the page

	You can read more about it here:

		https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html


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