Gemini Archiving and WARC
acdw acdw at acdw.net
Wed Sep 2 02:23:22 BST 2020
On 2020-09-01 (Tuesday) at 23:43, Charles E. Lehner <cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> Hi Gemini List,
>
> Has anyone thought about, or implemented, archiving of Gemini content/traffic?
>
> WARC (Web ARChive)? is a standard format used for web archiving. It
> uses text headers for metadata like in HTTP and email. It looks to me
> like WARC could be adapted for Gemini. The WARC spec supports multiple
> URI schemes, although it doesn't specify any other than http/https,
> ftp, and dns?. Bespoke formats could also be used, of course, or just
> downloading files wget-style, but using a standard format could allow
> for interop with "the WARC ecosystem"?.
>
> Archive Team? has also worked on archiving non-HTTP protocols like FTP?
> and Gopher?.
>
> I think there is an opportunity for people to maintain high-quality
> archives of Gemini content, like what the Internet Archive? and
> archive.today? do for the HTTP(S) Web. Now is a good time to start,
> while many of the original Gemini hosts? are still online.
>
> Regards,
> Charles E. Lehner
>
> ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_ARChive
> ?
> https://iipc.github.io/warc-specifications/specifications/warc-format/warc-1.1/#ftp-scheme
> ? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=The_WARC_Ecosystem
> ? https://www.archiveteam.org/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_Team
> ? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FTP
> ? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Gopher
> ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive
> https://archive.org/
> ? https://archive.today
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today
> ? gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/servers/
>
I personally think this is a great idea, but I know some might not be so on-board with it. I'm thinking of solderpunk's post (in their gopherhole, actually): gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~solderpunk/phlog/the-individual-archivist-and-ghosts-of-gophers-past.txt
So is there a way to opt-out of archiving for publishers? Some in the community might want to know about it, though I personally am of the opinion that if you've published it, it's now the property of the commons.
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