Gemini Digest, Vol 22, Issue 18

charliebrownau charliebrownau at protonmail.com
Wed May 19 13:53:10 BST 2021


Gday
Maybe I am jumping the gun and over reacting

Did anyone look at Chris McGee Gemini site
It links back to schema.org
https://schema.org/docs/about.html
https://schema.org/

" Founded by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Yandex"
" Schema.org vocabularies are developed by an open community process,
using the public-schemaorg at w3.org mailing list and through GitHub."

Do we really want another open code project and another group subverted
by Corporations, Patents, Royalities and those who are against Free Speech and Freedom ?

I really hope Gemini doesnt go down the same route as Firefox, Linux Foundation, Ansilbe
and so many others because they allow anyone into X group to push their adjenda, surbvert it
kick out the original team/founders and push Anti free Speech, Anti Merit,etc

It seems the whole open source community has been weaked and subverted to support
Corporations
speech code restrictions
Closed Source code/drivers/kernals
Telemary, data collecting, spying on users

Most refuse to address that Python and java are crap
and so much software is delibery forcing requirements of
pythlon, dotnet, java, gnome, systemd, dbus, pulse,etc into it
turning linux into windows centralised depant junkware


Just this week/month we have seen another open code project sold to a corporation
surbverted and ruined - Audacity

Why is open code software allowed to transfer to corporations in the first place ?

I really hope Gemini can stay to the hardcore roots and not become bloated web 2nd edition



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> 1.  [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro gemlogging
>     (Chris McGee)
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> 2.  Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
>     gemlogging (Nathan Galt)
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> 3.  Re: Opening of the first modules a new Gemini station
>     (Frank J?des)
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> 4.  Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
>     gemlogging (prx)
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> 5.  Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (ew.gemini)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 21:00:16 -0400
> From: Chris McGee newton688 at gmail.com
> To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> Subject: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro gemlogging
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> CAOk9ws3-r=KTH=92d1BejubAP_AsPdaQPc+8NByhgyU66jz9OA at mail.gmail.com
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> Hello All,
>
> I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and
> gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini
> capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use
> regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really
> short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more often.
>
> I've started publishing them here:
> gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
>
> A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found here:
> gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
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> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:14:18 -0700
> From: "Nathan Galt" mailinglists at ngalt.com
> To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> Subject: Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
> gemlogging
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> On Tue, May 18, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Chris McGee wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> > I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more often.
> > I've started publishing them here:
> > gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
> > A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found here:
> > gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
>
> Looks neat, but what's the difference between short blog posts and gemthoughts? RDF seems to be involved, but I'm not sure what one issupposed to do with things in brackets to make them actual gemthoughts.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:39:06 -0400
> From: Frank J?des Frank.Juedes at linux4specialists.com
> To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> Subject: Re: Opening of the first modules a new Gemini station
> Message-ID:
> 0af8e713-9471-7854-57f9-ae515440dd73 at linux4specialists.com
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> Hi Friends!
>
> as promised, two new modules have docked at
> gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/ ?
>
> 1.  ? Large Characters
>     Easily create flashy banner-texts in many different fonts with the
>     this utility: It reads your text and prints it out in all 290
>     installed character-sets, ready for you to copy and past into your
>     own page. ? gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/figlet
>
> 2.  ? Text in a Box
>     Similar to the Large Characters, this utility surrounds your text
>     with a more or less sophisticated box, drawn with ASCII-characters.
>     ? gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/boxes
>
>     More modules are already under construction ? and will dock soon!
>
>     Best regards from Charleston (WV),
>     ???? Frank/2
>
>     --
>
>
> My Gemini capsule orbits at gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/
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> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:21:27 +0200
> From: prx prx at si3t.ch
> To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> Subject: Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
> gemlogging
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> Hi,
> Have you heard about twtxt? It looks l'?le what you try to achieve :
> https://github.com/buckket/twtxt
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> A twtxt file can ne served through http, gopher, FTP, and of course Gemini.
>
> Le 19 mai 2021 03:00:16 GMT+02:00, Chris McGee newton688 at gmail.com a ?crit :
>
> > Hello All,
> > I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and
> > gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini
> > capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use
> > regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really
> > short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more
> > often.
> > I've started publishing them here:
> > gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
> > A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found
> > here:
> > gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:40:16 +0200
> From: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini at nassur.net
> To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages
> Message-ID: 82eee3tasl.fsf at nassur.net
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Hello almaember,
>
> Almaember almaember at disroot.org writes:
>
> > Hello, everybody!
> > I know that there is no way in Gemini right now to check the integrity
> > of pages. However, it would be nice for this to possible.
>
> Integrity in the sense of "the file remained unchanged in
> transit"? TLS should take care of that. In the sense "the file
> is the one that the original author intented it to be"?
>
> There are at least two attempts to deal with this:
>
> If you dare to check my capsule at
> => gemini://ew.srht.site/
>
> There are two links to openbsd-signify and NetSigil.
>
> When I publish a post, my Makefile takes care to create
> corresponding sha256 checksums. They are concatenated into one
> file, which is then signed using my gpg key. That's one option.
>
> The same information is packaged differently to
> .well-known/signature-bundle. This file is created using
> openbds-signify.
>
> There are a few threads on the mailing list, too ...
> https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005550.html
> https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005374.html
> https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005331.html
>
> Also see my first post about experimenting with this:
> => gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2020/20201217-towards-a-proper-flightlog-4.gmi
>
> There are two parts to this, as I see it.
>
> 1.
> Create the checksums/signature in some agreed upon format.
> Everyone editing a capsule has to do this. While a bit tedious,
> it still can be done manually on the shell (unix type
> environment assumed).
>
> 2.
> Upon user request browsers have to check these agreed upon
> locations, download the signed file, possibly download the
> public key, cache these things properly and then do the
> verification. I am not aware that any gemini browsers have
> picked this up. But of course, I would be pleased to be proven
> wrong :)
>
> > snip<
>
> Hope this helps,
> ~ew
>
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> Keep it simple!
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