Hi, I am new and I have created Gemini library

[Andrew Singleton]

Probably been mentioned before but what is the closest we have to an official it channel?

Aug 31, 2021 5:56:01 AM gemproj@suckless.anonaddy.com:

> That's dedication! I presume that was a lot of work.
> Have you talked to the person who invented titan:// ? I think gemini://transjovian.org/titan[http://transjovian.org/titan] is hosted by gemini://alexschroeder.ch[http://alexschroeder.ch] if I am not mistaken, someone correct me.
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> You should also talk to @skyjake on gemini://station.martinrue.com[http://station.martinrue.com] who maintains Lagrange, the only browser I know of that even implemented titan.
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> Right now, as it stands titan is merely more than an ftp alternative. One that you can add version management on, as if you were running a wiki.
> I'm not going to discuss the pros and cons of this spec, because I have no need for it. It works against decentralization. And just for my own gemlog, my toolchain would allow me to upload a simple textfile via scp/sftp and everything happens automagically.
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> What I will say however is, try to live within geminispace for a few months, hang around on irc and on station. You'll notice that there's a certain minimalism vibe to everything. People have really great ideas that change your perspective on what you think is necessary and what isn't.
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> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 2:15 AM Sergei Gnezdov 'sergei.gnezdov at gmail.com[http://gmail.com]' <gemproj+sergei.gnezdov=gmail.com@suckless.anonaddy.com> wrote:
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>> Here is my proposal.  It will be in standalone Github project.  I am interested to see the reaction.  The point of it is: Gemini as of today can stay the same and problem of form submission can be done on top of Titan.
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>> On 8/30/21 4:30 AM, gemproj@suckless.anonaddy.com wrote:
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>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 7:43 AM Sergei Gnezdov 'sergei.gnezdov at gmail.com[http://gmail.com]' <gemproj+sergei.gnezdov=gmail.com@suckless.anonaddy.com> wrote:
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>>> Gemini as of today will not scale in interactive usability, because user
>>> interaction is severely limited.  There is a statement that Gemini is
>>> only for consumption.  However, we have to be realistic that for
>>> usability of consumption to stay high, user cannot be asked to live
>>> Gemini browser for HTTPS powered web browser to submit a post.  That
>>> breaks user flow and makes Gemini not worth it.  Why to come back to
>>> Gemini if I just used standard browser to do something and in the
>>> process I compromised all the advantages listed above?
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>> I know this is not very progressive to say it, but why does it need to scale? Why does everything always have to appeal to everyone?
>> Not to mention the well-discussed issue as to whether content *needs* to be updated through a browser. My stance on this is pretty much: you have to learn things to use things. And using sftp to upload a file as a bare minimum requirement is not hard. And it uses a protocol made for file transfer! You can even transport images with it! </sarcasm>
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>> In all seriousness, there are multiple real life examples of this. If you want to learn to drive a car you need to consider learning how to drive. Who'd think that just because you know how to ride a bike, someone tailors your car to work like a bike, you know?
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>> geminispace provides a nice retreat from the complexities of the clearweb and it also makes you get back to tools that were around before everyone decided that literally everything needs to live in a browser. It doesn't mean that it's uncomfortable to use, but as skyjake once put it on gemini://station.martinrue.com[http://station.martinrue.com]: there's a reason text editors are there, because text editing is hard. Adding that to a browser is tough. If you make titan:// mandatory in geminispace, most browsers will instead to turn to the shell where you have immediate access to nano, vim and emacs, and what have you gained then?
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>> I know I am ranting. But it's been discussed. geminispace is feature complete from a protocol end. And if it doesn't grow big, that's probably ok. Because the people that are in geminispace are great as it is :)
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>>> Titan protocol is a good step in the process and perhaps is the only
>>> required step.  I am not sure.  We have to remember about need to
>>> support multiple screen types from desktop to mobile and it is tough to
>>> create something acceptable and generic for user input under the
>>> restrictions Gemini protocol put in place.  I am hoping people here come
>>> up with something :)
>>> 
>>> I also would like to raise people's awareness, that if the network to
>>> grow and get any close to big, people shall expect that network would
>>> promote payments models, because it kills advertisements so
>>> efficiently.  I think it is a good thing.  I want to consume a product
>>> and not to be a product.  If I am a product, then UI tends to focus on
>>> makings adds prominent and waiting my time. That goes back to value of
>>> Gemini and consequence of its proposition is non-add based models.  I hope.
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