News----good, bad, ugly? You decide (was Re: [spec] comments on the proposed gemini spec revisions)

[Sean Conner]

It was thus said that the Great Andrew Singleton once stated:
> > Not ONE person here who had showed interest in finalizing the spec
> 
> In my personal defense? I am not a coder, not versed in the knowledge 
> needed to have a worthwhile discussion on the wider spec, and I'm too 
> new and infrequent to the group to be a rabblerouser.
> 
> The overal tone of your post has a very 'I'm fed up, I'm angrily lashing 
> out at anyone and everyone and I don't care if it's productive or hurts 
> anyone else.'

  I was fed up seven months ago.  The last post to the mailing list (aside
from today) was April 13th.  Seven months ago.  I thought my post was pretty
chill.  I mean, did you catch this from nytpu?

	First, we have to talk about the absolute galaxy brain decision by
	Stéphane Bortzmeyer and Sean Conner to use gitlab of all places for
	discuss the Gemini specification.

	...

	Okay, so after that big "fuck you" to anybody not using a graphical
	browser ...

	...

	So after three big "fuck you"s you are forced to use your graphical
	browser with javascript enabled, and now you can actually read the
	full discussions.  But you still can't participate at all because of
	course you need an account, a fourth "fuck you."

(gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-10.gmi)

  Yeah, I'm not regretting my decision to leave.

> It leaves me not terribly confident since if the guys up top are willing
> to throw a snit fit at the whole mailing list? I guess the one saving
> grace is the code exists. Even if 'you' personally decide to throw your
> hands up and devolve into screaming at the whole list? The servers that
> exist work. The Gemini sphere won't instantly collapse on itself.
> 
> Sure in the future with an incomplete spec and the original people 
> leading the charge not slowly fading away but instead shouting at 
> everyone else 'YOU'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH!' Will have a chilling effect 
> that will leave us in the same spot as gopher.
> 
> Gemini's growth has been due to the excitement and buzzz that originates 
> in places like this. that buzz dies when the defacto leaders start 
> having 'old man shouting at clouds' moments, except directed at the very 
> users they're hoping will be constructive.

  Yeah, I made the right decision to leave.

> In short: Dude, you're angry, and I understand... but chill.

  Angry?  Not really.

  -spc